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Racing Mower Builds / Re: Roller
« on: November 01, 2008, 01:11:32 am »
I figured I'd let you tell everyone you went and got hitched! Just waitin to see how long it took. Give Lucy a hug for us all... hmmm... that'll be 1735 hugs according to present member stats, so you better get busy bud!!

Where abouts you guys at in California Marc? You find a mower race nearby yet, or you still looking? Not sure if I'll make it out there in March again, but I might. And, if you're close I just might have to track you down.

Driveline / Re: 700 VS 500 PEERLESS
« on: November 01, 2008, 12:30:53 am »
Thanks for all the info thats alot more than i expected for an explanation.This is a great forum. Thanks

Not a problem, had the pictures already, was simply a matter of finding them and getting the information posted. Cleaning the trannies was the hard part, and that was already done!!  :lol:

USLMRA Races / Re: Hog happnin
« on: October 30, 2008, 12:23:05 am »
That'd be sweet... I could run up to Elizabethtown and make a business trip out of it; a tax deductible mower racin trip!

Racing Mower Builds / Re: Roller
« on: October 30, 2008, 12:11:40 am »
Good to see you dude!! Mowchine is lookin sweet too!


Non-Affiliated Races / Re: Any non affiliated racers in the Mid Atlantic?
« on: October 28, 2008, 11:25:27 pm »
Check out the SEMOW Lawn Racers Mike...

Great bunch of folks racing there, guys and gals, pretty much a class act in all respects. They make a lot of the local parades as a group, have a nice track set up and draw a real respectable crowd, donate a part of their proceeds back to local charities.

Their forum is linked on the website, jump on board and chat with them a bit.

Racing Mower Builds / Re: DoNoHo's First MowBuild
« on: October 28, 2008, 10:34:45 pm »
All of the above... saves on decision making!  ;)

Driveline / Re: 700 VS 500 PEERLESS
« on: October 26, 2008, 09:58:12 am »
Just another racer lookin for answers Jerb! Questions had arisen here a time or two, and Squidd had done a nice job of comparing the Foote 3 speed and Peerless 700 in a post some time back. I was cleaning trannies up that day, and had the opportunity to compare the 500 and 700, so I broke out the camera and took a few shots.

Personally I was amazed that there was as much difference in them as found. I expected at least some of the parts to interchange, but there is actually very few parts in them that appear interchangeable. 

Briggs OHV & Vanguard / Re: Carb spacers
« on: October 26, 2008, 12:52:13 am »
Considering these engines have trouble breathing efficiently to begin with, I would think there are definitely limits as to how much spacer is beneficial. At some point you have to exceed the engine's ability to draw the air/fuel mixture efficiently and begin going backwards. Where exactly that might be, I honestly don't know.

Driveline / Re: 700 VS 500 PEERLESS
« on: October 26, 2008, 12:38:28 am »
700 vs. 500 Comparison

Brake Shaft - While there is some difference here it would appear to be attributable to use of the 2 piece Bevel Gear Assembly in one and the one piece bevel gear in the other. More on the bevel gear below.

Counter Shaft - is considerably different. While this is at least partly attributable to the 700 pictured here being off a walk behind Bobcat Mower, which uses bearings to support the outer ends of the shaft as opposed to the normal bushing application there, there is also a considerable difference in diamter of the shaft.

Shift keys are likewise different... 500 key on top, 700 key on bottom.

In looking at the gears pictured here, difference in the size of the Counter Shafts in these two trannies is clearly evident.

Looking at the right end, as pictured or top of the shift fork, you'll note there is also a difference in the shift fork between the 500 and 700.

As indicated above, here we have pictured a two piece and a one piece bevel gear assembly. It should be noted also that the 700 manual does recognize both on at least some trannies, and states that if the bevel gear is replaced with the 2 piece bevel gear assembly, it must be replaced as a set. Cause and reason being, the bevel itself is different on the two.   

Looking at the Bevel Pinion, this is more readily apparent, and one should also note the counter shaft gear on the bevel gear assembly is deeper as well.

Input shaft likewise shows considerable difference! Wear on the bottom shaft aside, everything about the Input Shaft is different!!

While there are some subtle differences in the case, again this is somewhat attributable to the bearings used on the countershaft in the 700 trannie. Otherwise there is some difference in the webbing for external mounts, and the bushings and holes in the case would appear to be the same on the Brake Shaft. If you look closely at the second picture, you'll notice there is also quite a bit of difference in the wall thickness surrounding the input shaft. 

So for those thinking these trannies are interchangeable... from a perspective of unbolting one, and bolting the other in, yes you can. Externally all dimensions would appear to be the same. Internally however, their parts are not interchangeable!!

Briggs Flathead / Re: 11 Hp Questions
« on: October 25, 2008, 11:31:39 pm »
There are days like that around here, believe me!

Briggs Flathead / Re: 11 Hp Questions
« on: October 25, 2008, 11:27:51 pm »

Uhmmm.... No. He's Acre Farm, Pictures and video of motor LVT10 was showing beginning of this thread, is his tractor.

Post your Pics! / Re: my new outlaw modified for 09!!
« on: October 25, 2008, 11:18:37 pm »
Hay bales have an ugly habit of making things go where they ain't s'posed too Jerb! (o;?

All I know is Don has scratched almost all the hair off the top of his head figuring these things out, and there's a reason he does it the way he does it. By over center, I was referring to the arm itself. If you go past 90* in right hand turn, when you turn back to the left you pull into the pivot point, until such time as you break past 90*. Thus more leverage is needed to turn left when you exceed the 90* point of pitman arm on bell crank. By angling it back to where you don't exceed 90* it requires a little less effort to turn it back left. Or, at least I think that's why he does it that way!! Discussions at times get deep around the shop, when you think you have asked the simplest of questions!!

Post your Pics! / Re: my new outlaw modified for 09!!
« on: October 25, 2008, 10:35:06 pm »
I think from the looks of the second picture there, you may encounter problems with clearance of your rod running from the bell crank back to the steering shaft. You may have to heat that arm and bend it a little to find clearance. _/=

Likewise, might want to angle the arm back some, so you don't go over center when steering to the right. Which can make it difficult to turn back.

Front End Slideshow 1

Front End Slideshow 2

Driveline / Re: Identifying Lawn Mower Transmissions
« on: October 25, 2008, 05:44:07 am »

Briggs Flathead / Re: Valve buildup
« on: October 22, 2008, 12:45:32 am »
I was thinking that big trackhoe and them big redwood logs in the background look a whole lot more unsafe than those short sleeves do!!

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