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Engine Help => Briggs Flathead => Topic started by: Rooster on January 11, 2011, 06:27:23 am

Title: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 11, 2011, 06:27:23 am
Have had several guys ask about this lately, so I decided to post some pics of how I modify Opposed twins for better oiling.

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/th_Stage1crank-2.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/?action=view&current=Stage1crank-2.jpg)

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/th_Stage1crank-.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/?action=view&current=Stage1crank-.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/th_Stage1crank-5.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/?action=view&current=Stage1crank-5.jpg)

The first thing I do is the crank. I remove material above the crank pins. Later you will see, with the rod on there it creates a sort of "shelf" . The slung oil comes down and gets into the rod here.
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: George Herrin on January 11, 2011, 09:17:16 am
What are you hidding under the rag!!!LOL
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Huffy044 on January 11, 2011, 11:28:51 am
Looks like a OHV to me? Maybe he has seen the light?
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: George Herrin on January 11, 2011, 11:41:35 am
I know what it is....LOL I just want him to spillthe beans. LOL
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Burwell555 on January 11, 2011, 12:00:23 pm
Beans, beans, the musical fruit... :lol:
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 11, 2011, 03:00:21 pm
Those were just there to keep the grease off of the v-blocks.
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: GRUBDIGGER on January 11, 2011, 04:00:00 pm
I SEE AN TABLE. NO V BLOCKS. :bash: :D
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Jeff Digou (Pitguy) on January 11, 2011, 04:06:17 pm
No grease on the layout table  :bash:
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: blasterracer817 on January 11, 2011, 04:28:04 pm
do rooster how do you grind it away, just take a grinder to it? about how much do you cut off? I wasnt to make my oppy last, untill i get rods anyways, any other tips?
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 11, 2011, 05:46:47 pm
the bottom of the crank pin radiuses u to the side, I grind it down to that radius.
I cut it first with the lathe, since it was already in the lathe anyway....

I SEE AN TABLE. NO V BLOCKS. :bash: :D
They are under the rags
No grease on the layout table  :bash:
Thanks to the rags!

you guys have caught me, my big secret  the opposed twins is....

wait....

are you ready for it....


Red Rags
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: GRUBDIGGER on January 11, 2011, 05:55:26 pm
WORKS FOR ME. >:D
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: more4les on January 11, 2011, 05:58:36 pm
My opposed crank doesn't look like that, mine is all shiny and kinda chromey lookin......LOL

Lester
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 11, 2011, 06:02:09 pm
Any pics of it Les?
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: more4les on January 11, 2011, 06:27:51 pm
Any pics of it Les?

A few mortals might get a peek this spring when i go through it...... LOL.


Lester
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 11, 2011, 08:49:24 pm
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Oppy%20Parts/Top%20Secret%20Crap/th_Stage-1Crank.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Oppy%20Parts/Top%20Secret%20Crap/?action=view&current=Stage-1Crank.jpg)

OK, fine...that's what was under the rags.
So there you go.
Now if you do this to your crank without what I do to it afterwards.....good luck keeping that engine together!
Don't bother asking what I do afterwards, i ain't telling!
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 12, 2011, 04:09:56 am
Now the rods.
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/th_OilMods002.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/?action=view&current=OilMods002.jpg)
First I drill out the oil hole larger, I use a 9/32.
Then I put a large chamfer on it, creating a funnel of sorts to catch more oil.


(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/th_OilMods001.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/?action=view&current=OilMods001.jpg)
Then I drill a 3/16" hole in the center of the cap, no chamfer here.
The hole pictured is way too big....I dunno what I was thinking when I drilled it!


(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/th_OilMods005.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/?action=view&current=OilMods005.jpg)
You can see where the grinding on the crank helps now,  leaving a "shelf" to catch oil on top of the rod.

Disclaimer, I did not pay any attention to how I installed this rod, nor is it torqued down.It was done purely for photo use. It may or may not be installed correctly
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 12, 2011, 04:45:12 am
Finally the pan.
There are 2 oil valleys that allo the oil to get down to the lower main.
using a die grinder and a 1/4 ball, I open those up just a bit.

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/th_OilMods007.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/?action=view&current=OilMods007.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/th_OilMods006.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/?action=view&current=OilMods006.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: ANIMAL96 on January 12, 2011, 07:06:22 am
PM SENT
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: BIG AL 202 on January 12, 2011, 10:49:08 am
THANKS FOR THE TIPS, THE CRANK LOOKS GOOD! ANY MORE IDEAS YOU WANT TO SHOW US? YOU SHOULD MAKE A DVD! [THINK ABOUT IT]
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: birdman_express on January 12, 2011, 10:50:48 am
THANKS FOR THE TIPS, YOU SHOULD MAKE A DVD! [THINK ABOUT IT]

He made a video on lapping valves, but I lost it.
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 12, 2011, 06:29:45 pm
He made a video on lapping valves, but I lost it.
Lol...

THANKS FOR THE TIPS, THE CRANK LOOKS GOOD! ANY MORE IDEAS YOU WANT TO SHOW US? YOU SHOULD MAKE A DVD! [THINK ABOUT IT]

I didn't WANT to show you this, lol...I just answer when asked, or chime in when I think I can help. Not starting a school, or hanging a shingle. I'm not good on video....
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: GRUBDIGGER on January 12, 2011, 06:50:46 pm
OH COME ON,A BIG ROOSTER ON THE FRONT COVER? :lol3:
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 12, 2011, 06:54:43 pm
lol
And how would the introduction go...

Hi, I am Rooster and I am here to show you how I build engines.
Now I have never won anything important, no national wins, didn't even finish finals, but hey I got your money didn't I...

LOL
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: GRUBDIGGER on January 12, 2011, 06:58:24 pm
WORKS FOR ME. VERY FUNNY. :lol:
Title: Re: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: THawley08 on January 12, 2011, 07:16:00 pm
Where do I send payment to????

Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 12, 2011, 08:36:04 pm
payaple to:
 RoosterRippedMeOff@stolenmoney.com
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: THawley08 on January 12, 2011, 08:58:02 pm
LMAO
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Old Goat on January 12, 2011, 09:47:02 pm
Rooster, I was just wondering........is all the extra oil to the journals to keep the crank from getting rusty when its submerged? :hmmm: :rofl: :pffftt:
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 12, 2011, 09:55:19 pm
Lol...Been missing ya buddy welcome back!
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: BIG AL 202 on January 13, 2011, 11:19:34 am
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOW YOUR FACE OH I MENT BEEK, YOU JUST NEED TO GET A MODEL AND YOU CAN NARATE! LOL
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: GRUBDIGGER on January 13, 2011, 11:22:26 am
ROOSTER,YOU KNOW EVERYBODY WENT TO YOUR RIPPED OFF LINK. :badgrin:
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: BIG AL 202 on January 13, 2011, 12:16:00 pm
OH THATS WHAT THAT WAS, THOUGHT IT WAS CHICKEN SCRATCH! LOL
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 13, 2011, 06:47:53 pm
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOW YOUR FACE OH I MENT BEEK, YOU JUST NEED TO GET A MODEL AND YOU CAN NARATE! LOL
Finally, someone with a good idea!
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: plowboy6602 on January 13, 2011, 07:42:07 pm
how bigg are the holes on the rod cap
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 13, 2011, 08:36:19 pm
3/16
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: plowboy6602 on January 13, 2011, 08:46:00 pm
ok also i was woundering if you do the same thing to for a single flatty 28 ci thanks
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: GTX21 on January 13, 2011, 08:59:16 pm
Dont think it would hurt.
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: THawley08 on January 13, 2011, 09:07:25 pm
Here is the best way to make sure the oil gets to the right areas.
(http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc382/THawley69/Mower%202011/OilModOpposed.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 13, 2011, 09:56:09 pm
Show off
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: THawley08 on January 13, 2011, 10:12:29 pm
Lol
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: kerry123 on January 13, 2011, 10:23:47 pm
will a bigger oil filter help performance or hurt it? i took of the old briggs one and put a fram oil filter for a car in is place. its the same diameter just bout twice as long

thanks
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 13, 2011, 10:30:44 pm
Oil filter will not make any difference
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: kerry123 on January 14, 2011, 02:45:24 pm
oh alright... didnt think so. i was just wondering if the different size did anything
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: meanmachine on January 17, 2011, 07:11:08 pm
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Oppy%20Parts/Top%20Secret%20Crap/th_Stage-1Crank.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Oppy%20Parts/Top%20Secret%20Crap/?action=view&current=Stage-1Crank.jpg)

OK, fine...that's what was under the rags.
So there you go.
Now if you do this to your crank without what I do to it afterwards.....good luck keeping that engine together!Don't bother asking what I do afterwards, i ain't telling!
so what your saying is dont grind the crank to for oil mods because we dont know what the next step is ? :worried:
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 17, 2011, 07:45:11 pm
No, it is fine to do the oil mods, just don't go cutting the weights like I did.

That is the reason in the first photos I had the rags there. Those are not oiling mods.
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: meanmachine on January 17, 2011, 08:15:27 pm
didnt catch that the first time i look at the pic thanks for clear'n that up
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: FlatheadPuller on January 17, 2011, 08:55:48 pm
Rooster how much weight did you loose from the crank. It looks killer. Had to make a big difference in how quick it revs. I like it.
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on January 17, 2011, 09:09:48 pm
Don't know yet? Have not run it yet and not finished with it yet, lol!
Doing some more work on it tonight then hopefully I can weigh it.
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: BIG AL 202 on March 20, 2011, 07:32:49 pm
well anything new too see besides red rags!
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on March 20, 2011, 08:34:09 pm
Nothing new, been  working on other parts of it...wouldn't wait to see updates though, lol!
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: BIG AL 202 on March 20, 2011, 09:31:13 pm
OK JUST CHECKING!  I BET YOU THOUGHT WE ALL FORGOT! ;)
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Big Mike on April 24, 2011, 10:36:17 pm
could i still do this with a single(i have an extra in the shed) :P
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: BIG AL 202 on April 25, 2011, 09:10:41 am
YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE IT BALANCED AND I AM NOT SURE YOU WILL GAIN BECAUSE OF ADDING WEIGHT. THE OPPOSED HAS NATURAL BALANCE, AS LONG AS BOTH CYLINDERS WEIGHT [PISTONS & RODS] ARE EQUAL. YOU WILL NEED TO TALK TO THE BALANCER PERSON TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO.
ANYTHING NEW JON!   WE DID NOT FORGET LOL!!!
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on April 25, 2011, 03:49:57 pm
Nothing new, too busy racing and doing work for other guys.
The opposed crank is actually even harder to balance than a single. With the two crank journals and the weights so far apart if you get them off then it will twist on the crank ...kind of hard to explain. I talked with Tommy "The King of all things Balanced" , and he talked to them reallly smart fellars he knows, and the only way to properly balance an oppy crank is on a computer balancer...

As for the singles...any weight you take off of one side has to come off of the other, on the Oppy i do this by drilling the crank pins. Thwe opposed has 1-5/8 crank pins - HUGE! The singles are prone to breakage without a hole in them, I would not suggest that!
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Big Mike on April 26, 2011, 09:22:26 am
so your saying if i do these mods i have to have my engine rebalanced?
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: GTX21 on April 26, 2011, 09:34:42 am
No, these can be done without balancing the crank (oil mods)
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: mowinmachine on April 26, 2011, 02:29:33 pm
 I liked your little trick of drilling the oil groove longer for the crank bearing in the pan. I'm guessing this would work for just about any engine, right?
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on April 26, 2011, 03:20:01 pm
I liked your little trick of drilling the oil groove longer for the crank bearing in the pan. I'm guessing this would work for just about any engine, right?
Yup!
so your saying if i do these mods i have to have my engine rebalanced?
No, these can be done without balancing the crank (oil mods)
Yeah sorry, we got off talking about the crank, lol. no you won't have to re-balance for the oil mods to the block. However with a single If you do the crank grinding I definitely would!
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: sandsnipe on April 26, 2011, 04:08:00 pm
Hey Rooster, don't appologize for giving out great tip and info.
Some guys like me read almost everything that comes along
just so info like that on the cranks doesn't get missed.
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Big Mike on April 26, 2011, 08:45:58 pm
now rooster did you do this with stock rods or a arc rod?
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: THawley08 on April 26, 2011, 08:52:52 pm
With the splash system I would do it no matter arc or stock.
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on April 26, 2011, 10:02:44 pm
Both ways Mike.
Now I did not do any oiling mods to the ARC rod though, they are fine as they come.
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Big Mike on April 27, 2011, 05:10:13 pm
ok i did this to my 20hp single i ran the engine at 2000rpms then i broke it loose with my tach hitting 5500 rpms with a big grin  ;)

Thanks
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: BIG AL 202 on April 27, 2011, 05:39:42 pm
OK I'LL ASK, THE REAR TIRES OR THE ENGINE BROKE?
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Big Mike on April 27, 2011, 07:12:08 pm
well engine has held up well i dropped the pan after the test and saw no ware on the bearings or anything of that matter. i can risk breaking motors ive got plenty laying around but i dont like to but some times it happends
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: BIG AL 202 on August 05, 2011, 10:22:57 pm
Anything new under those rags?
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on August 15, 2011, 01:58:19 pm
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/th_OilMods001.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/Roosterlew/Pics%20on%20Heymow/?action=view&current=OilMods001.jpg)
Then I drill a 3/16" hole in the center of the cap, no chamfer here.
The hole pictured is way too big....I dunno what I was thinking when I drilled it!

I screwed up here guys, thanks to meanmachine for catching this! If anyone has made this mod already I do apologize, but I think that much hole will cause problems! I don't know if it was a late night, grabbed the wrong drill or what but that is not right!
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Big Mike on August 15, 2011, 03:14:01 pm
I screwed up here guys, thanks to meanmachine for catching this! If anyone has made this mod already I do apologize, but I think that much hole will cause problems! I don't know if it was a late night, grabbed the wrong drill or what but that is not right!

np i sold my 20hp single that i did this to to a kid lol
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on August 15, 2011, 03:50:09 pm
np i sold my 20hp single that i did this to to a kid lol
SO your Idea of No Problem is selling "a kid" the engine you used my bad advice on which could very well be about to come apart?
I bet he will think very highly of both of us!

Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Tom Price on August 15, 2011, 04:55:05 pm
How big of a hole you thinking?  Looks like I need to pull my buddy's motor apart now lol
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on August 15, 2011, 05:37:55 pm
How big of a hole you thinking?  Looks like I need to pull my buddy's motor apart now lol
The hole size I quoted was correct, 3/16...but the hole in the pic I had to have grabbed the 9/32 drill or something!
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Tom Price on August 15, 2011, 07:01:37 pm
Whew!  I put 3/1 in them... I always thought that hole looked bigger than 3/16 lol
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Big Mike on August 19, 2011, 02:36:30 pm
SO your Idea of No Problem is selling "a kid" the engine you used my bad advice on which could very well be about to come apart?
I bet he will think very highly of both of us!



still running fine he is using it as a puller and i dont think i told him i got the idea from ROOSTER i said i found the idea off of heymow.
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: meanmachine on August 20, 2011, 12:35:05 pm
9/32
[might what to change this to 3/16 also/quote]
how bigg are the holes on the rod cap
3/16

this is on page 3 just trying to help
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: birdman_express on August 20, 2011, 03:02:45 pm
3/16

this is on page 3 just trying to help

I fixed it.
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: blasterracer817 on August 20, 2011, 04:54:28 pm
 :bash: that sucks, I did it with the 9/32nd hole, so now my caps are shot... new motor time or caps whatever comes cheeper
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: rotten ron on August 20, 2011, 08:11:27 pm
When a connecting rod is made the cap is bolted on then it is bored and honed to size,you can't just change the cap and have the rod be round,you need to change the whole rod
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: big jerm on October 02, 2011, 09:30:05 pm
there is a rod that is shorter and wider thats why some people machine down the cranks like that
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: BIG AL 202 on October 14, 2012, 09:26:55 pm
WELL ROOSTER ANYTHING NEW UNDER THEM RAGS? BET YOU WE FORGOT! LOL  WHAT ABOUT THAT VIDEO!    :badgrin:
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: rotten ron on October 20, 2012, 12:54:54 pm
Rooster,after you do all this stuff why do they still go slow?
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: BIG AL 202 on October 20, 2012, 01:00:20 pm
Like I have said before, no love for oppy's!   LOL
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: rotten ron on October 20, 2012, 01:13:47 pm
Rooster was going to build something with rocker arms but it hasn't happened yet,I was going to help him,he could still use the oppy when he wanted to go slow
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: BIG AL 202 on October 20, 2012, 02:43:25 pm
Or is he trying to put rockers on an oppy?   LOL
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on October 23, 2012, 07:58:50 pm
Rooster,after you do all this stuff why do they still go slow?
If I knew the answer to that...they wouldn't now would they!
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: George Herrin on October 23, 2012, 11:36:02 pm
Rooster,after you do all this stuff why do they still go slow?

I know I know.... because it is apposed to running. .... :D >:D
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: rotten ron on October 24, 2012, 02:04:32 am
All kidding aside,they have a pretty good sound when they are going around the track slowly
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Rooster on October 24, 2012, 01:50:47 pm
I know I know.... because it is apposed to running. .... :D >:D
I have never known anyone who could keep them from running, dang things never quit!
Oh wait...there is one guy that they wont stay running for...YOU!
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: Jeff McKelroy on October 24, 2012, 03:01:18 pm
I have never known anyone who could keep them from running, dang things never quit!
Oh wait...there is one guy that they wont stay running for...YOU!

 :lol:
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: George Herrin on October 24, 2012, 03:15:22 pm
Shoot fire man I bought a brand new one it mowed one time and went to the scrap yard. Junk I tell ya
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: BIG AL 202 on October 24, 2012, 03:36:52 pm
Like I say "oppys get little or no respect" LOL! even when they do run good!
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: redline on October 24, 2012, 03:53:51 pm
even when they do run good!

When is that? Like the second Tuesday of next week type thing?
Title: Re: Opposed Twin Oil Mods
Post by: BIG AL 202 on October 24, 2012, 06:04:38 pm
YUP! LIKE I SAID NO LOVE LOL!