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Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« on: October 10, 2011, 09:51:10 pm »
I need some help on how thick the scatter sheild needs to be for my Intek and how it has to be built. I need to build one for the All American because I am not sure what class I will run since the motor is still semi stock and I don't have the money for a billet flywheel and starter.

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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 07:57:56 am »
If the rules say billet, you have to run billet. Better check the rules for the race and make sure you will be legal.

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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 08:03:37 am »
1/8 th inch thick I do know that Justin
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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 10:00:31 am »
The only national sanction body that requires billet wheels is USLMRA and that is at a national points race. Their rules for local levels are different as well as the US Open type events to allow other racers to compete!
So Justin, I remember the rules being at least 1/8 inch thick steel. Then there was also a 1/4 thick by 1 inch wide 'strap' across the top of the shroud. Basically its a 'free lance' design as there is nothing off the shelf so there's no right or wrong way to do it. My opinion, stuff it underneath the shroud. No, not so its 'hidden,' but if built under the shroud then it can be kept as close to the flywheel as possible. The less room between the flywheel and the scattershield, the less of a 'run' the flywheel pieces would have towards the shield. As we all know, the more room to gain momentum, the harder the impact. Beeping the scatter shield close would help. Basically the only way I can figure to do this on an intek is leave it probably a 3/8-1/2 inch off the flywheel in all directions then once you get up to the coils, go out and around them. Let's face it, if its gonna break, its smashing the coils anyways! Then when you have the shield itself done, find a good spot on the block to mount it to. Not the bolts that hold the factory shroud on. I would say that you could probably weld some tabs on the front and get them down to the intake bolts. Those are probably the strongest point at the front part of the motor...as for the rear, hmmm I don't recall much to great back there. I would be willing to say though that you could weld some 18 gauge or something to the sheetmetal that goes under the flywheel to get a thick enough piece to bolt to. Just do it strategically. Then 2 tabs off the backside of the scattershield to hold it to the block. Then drill and tap the pieces into the sheetmetal you just welded to that bolts to the back of the motor. I hope this makes sense. If not, ask away and ill clear it up.
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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 10:28:42 am »
I thought that I heard talk of ARMA making alum flywheels mandatory for next year Not sure but should be looked into if your planning to run with them.

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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 12:03:18 pm »
I thought that I heard talk of ARMA making alum flywheels mandatory for next year Not sure but should be looked into if your planning to run with them.

I had heard it last winter but nothing came about...the scattershield would let him pass tech for the All American in just a few weeks if he doesnt have the cash to buy a billet wheel. If I hear FACT on having to have them for ARMA, I will let you know Mike.
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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 12:51:37 pm »
It's in the rule book all ya gotta do is read it
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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 01:16:18 pm »
u. External ignition systems and aluminum flywheels are authorized.


IMPORTANT SAFETY NOTE
It is highly recommended that there be no alterations to a stock flywheel. This is to
include removing the magnets and/or removing metal from the flywheel in various
locations. Altered flywheels are not tested under any standards for safety and may not
withstand high rpms. Recognizing that other sanctioning bodies are extending their
implementation date for mandatory billet flywheels, ARMA will permit drivers to continue to
run their stock flywheels for the 2011 season. By doing so, drivers assume all risks related to
running said flywheel


From what I saw in the book and how its wrote it says they are authorized, which makes them legal, but not mandatory. It even says ARMA will permit stock flywheels.
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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 02:00:18 pm »
But it does not say they will be allowed in 2012.
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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 03:29:10 pm »
I was just saying it might good to find out what the rule is going to be next season. if all he is doing is trying to finish this season I would think that he is OK. but I am not a tech person.

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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2011, 04:26:58 pm »
Thats because its the 2011 book and the 2012 isnt out yet  :bash:
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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2011, 08:44:35 pm »
The reason its wrote the way it is is to prepare everyone for whats coming. As per the rules he is ok as is as long as the flywheel is unaltered.
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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2011, 09:55:48 pm »
Yes the flywheel is untouched as well as the motor is bone stock, but the class list only has the open twins or bp classes on it not a stock twin class. So I have to run with the bp's unless the is enough to run a stock twin class. And the US rules say a billet wheel or Scatter Shield are my only chooses.

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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2011, 09:58:50 pm »
This is the OPEN and we go by everyones rules. ALL Arma legal amchines are legal and vice versus.
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Re: Scatter sheild for a intek 44
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2011, 10:01:30 pm »
I confused but I will cover all my base and have something either a billet wheel or a scatter shield. Thanks guys y'all can lock this tread.

 

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