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16 hp vanny crank types?
« on: June 03, 2011, 02:07:17 am »
I have a 16 hp vanguard horazontal m#303447 t#1131-31 c#06032911.
I had cut my old crank to fit a clutch then chaned to a new clutch and then needed what I had cut off (live and learn).
  My old crank had a deep grove cut into it for oiling on the fly wheel side, I found another crank for the same motor but it has no grove.
          I know there is a new and old style crank , but when I look at the bearing in the side cover it has a grove in it for oiling also,
So my questions are .

1.could I have a side cover for the smooth style and just didnt know untill now
2.would the grove in the bearing be enough to oil the smooth stlye crank.
3.could the smooth style crank have the grove machined into it
4.if all all above fails , anyone got a GOOD used crank....

     The motor was put together with parts from mulitable motors thats why iam unsure of the side cover bearing grove thing.
I realy need to fix this fast , everything is done and ready to go but for the finale assemble of the motor and I have to be at a pr thing on the 25th of june , so Iam getting
   a little antsy .....thanks guys for any input..wes
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Re: 16 hp vanny crank types?
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2011, 05:43:49 pm »
There is no groove in the crank on the pto or side cover side, only on the mag side. The crank with no groove has a smaller journal diameter then the crank with the oil groove. The cranks and blocks are not interchangable. No bearings on the pto side that I no of has oil grooves in them, all side covers and cranks are interchangable.
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Re: 16 hp vanny crank types?
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2011, 08:16:56 pm »
I realized after my post, I was thinking side cover but meant block/mag side....
  I was thinking I could change the bearing on the mag side but if their diffrent diameters oh well on that idea.
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Re: 16 hp vanny crank types?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2011, 09:21:59 am »
I thought that's what you might have been talking about but wasn't sure. The small journal engines had problems in that area, that's why briggs had to make the change. The large journal engines are a lot more desirable then the early small journal engines. If you are in a pinch and you need a crank for your large journal block, let me know and I'll have a look on the shelf for you.
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Re: 16 hp vanny crank types?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2011, 10:29:20 pm »
 Whatcha up to, Wes? Whats going on the 25th hot rod?
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Re: 16 hp vanny crank types?
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 03:05:29 am »
Well Iam trying to get this motor finished so I can hot rod around the track, but if I can't land one in the next week I'll be the water boy.....
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