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RACE PREPPING A 700 SERIES TRANNY
« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2006, 06:46:35 am »
They stick these 700s in all kinds of stuff! Ive found them in walk behind mowers before!!
Oh come on man. You got no lady fingers, fuzz buttles, snicker bombs, church burners, finger blasters, gut busters, zippity do das, or crap flappers?
No, I don't.
You're gonna stand there, owning a fireworks stand, and tell me you don't have no whistling bungholes, no spleen spliters, whisker biscuits, honkey lighters, hoosker doos, hoosker donts, cherry bombs, nipsy daisers, with or without the scooter stick, or one single whistling kitty chaser?

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« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2006, 02:30:10 pm »
nor66 Squidd explained it pretty good.
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« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2006, 01:15:51 pm »
where can i get an aps catalog?

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« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2006, 04:07:05 pm »
You can download it for free..., contact them and have them mail you one, or you can browse the site and order on-line.

Complete catalog takes a little over a minute on a kick-:censored: DSL connection, with screaming computer.... I wouldn't go there on dial-up y'all! It's a 25.5mb file!! Dial-up you're talking HOURS!!


You might also want to check out the kart goodies at ARC! Especially since they're the ones footing the bill and donating the time to manage our little forum here!  ;)

ARC also carries a nice line of products specifically for the lawn mower racer; dependent upon what you're looking for they may honestly be your best bet.

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« Reply #49 on: September 12, 2006, 01:40:43 pm »
Quote from: "George Herrin"
Jeff no one using the 700 series tranny that I am aware of uses the reverse. If the chain breaks and it will, it wraps around the shafts and totally destroys the tranny. It only has to be shiftable in gear and outta gear.


Well reading this whole article, I was never aware of this defect in the 700. Using my machine off-road constantly (its only ever not in the woods on the trip to the woods and the trip back :lol:) I absolutely need reverse. Now you have me worried when I disassemble this thing to use gear oil, that I'm going to put it in reverse and the transmission will grenade. This poor little toro is always under extreme amounts of stress because It's pretty much used as a towing & recovery mower. It's actually gotten to the point where I've been considering a winch for the front and a boom for the rear! :lol:
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« Reply #50 on: September 12, 2006, 08:04:45 pm »
I've been considering one of those for the track, just for show purposes! Flashing yellow light on the hood, little boom on the rear with a winch, maybe a set of dollies. Or, a few counter weights on the front end and a set of forks to slide under the broked one.

Just haven't figured out where I'd put all of it in the trailer!

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« Reply #51 on: September 12, 2006, 08:23:28 pm »
Quote from: "mowdak1"
I've been considering one of those for the track, just for show purposes! Flashing yellow light on the hood, little boom on the rear with a winch, maybe a set of dollies. Or, a few counter weights on the front end and a set of forks to slide under the broked one.

Just haven't figured out where I'd put all of it in the trailer!


 :lol: I've already abused mine twice this week. Yesterday I had to pull my girlfriends dad up the hill, because all his would do was spin. I had to tow him  3 times. The 3rd time was hysterical, he was trying to go up the hill, and ended up sliding down backwards at like 10MPH totally out of control. he ended up jacknifing the mower and the trailer. I was laughing so hard I fell off my mower! :lol:

Had to tow the Wizard up the same hill today. Was going up the hill and my belt started to smoke. I knew the belt was on it's way out because it was shredding. I had her in 1st, so I just went wide open and let out the clutch. I was slowly going up the hill in this huge whiteish/blueish cloud of smoke and was at the top when the belt snapped and I went down the hill backwards. Ended up pulling that up the hill with the Toro too!

I already have an oldschool yellow revolving light from the 70's that would fit perfect on there (since that's from the 70's too! :lol:), just gotta think up some sort of boom or something for the rear of it.  :twisted:
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Re: RACE PREPPING A 700 SERIES TRANNY
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2006, 09:21:56 pm »
where do i get the input oil seal?
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Re: RACE PREPPING A 700 SERIES TRANNY
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2006, 11:37:38 pm »
useing the tecumseh number any mower shop that can buy tecumseh parts. If using the federal mogul # then Napa or any good auto motive store should be able to cross it and get it.
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« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2006, 01:46:04 am »
  George i see you afre running an MTD style mower i have several of these and wish to build racers out of them ..... I only race here in Louisiana and we lower them to the ground and make them 40 inches wide for all classes seems to make them safer from rollover i woul like to know how you got yours so low ?

I have several AYP models (Craftmans) and they were easy to do but have had trouble with mtd's
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Re: RACE PREPPING A 700 SERIES TRANNY
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2006, 01:55:02 am »
go to his build thread located here: http://www.heymow.com/index.php/topic,1613.0.html
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Re: RACE PREPPING A 700 SERIES TRANNY
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2006, 07:37:20 am »
Thanks Matt!!
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Re: RACE PREPPING A 700 SERIES TRANNY-quick question
« Reply #57 on: December 09, 2006, 08:58:02 am »
Gents, the removal of reverse on a 700?(700-039).....is this due to high failure or the being the weak point of the tranny?........and is it OK to leave the reverse gears in without the chain?
....or, can you point me in the right direction to find the thread that answers this.

I found a spare 700-026 that is a 5spd, it has the 36 fine spline shaft but does not have the ball bearings on the output shaft (like the 039), it has 4 bronze bushings. Should I toss it? or possibly prep it and use it?, with that said, does a 700 trans having the ball bearings mean it is "Heavy Duty"?

Thanks for the advise
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Re: RACE PREPPING A 700 SERIES TRANNY
« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2006, 10:35:33 am »
I believe reverse failure is due to the chain spinning extra fast the other direction when you increase the forward speed,gear lube should help this but it is going to fail sometime when you overspeed them.Just removing the chain is all we did and it works good.
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Re: RACE PREPPING A 700 SERIES TRANNY
« Reply #59 on: December 09, 2006, 10:50:35 am »
The problem with reverse is the chain. When it not if but when it breaks it will wrap around the internal parts exploding the tranny from the inside out. Remove gears and chain. Why carry the extra drag. You do not have to put spacers in their place at all. As for the 039 and the ball bearings!!! While the bearings offer less rolling resistance I have had to replace the input bearings more in those trannys than those tranny with 4 brass bushings. As a matter of fact I havn't used a 039 in 3 years. All of mine use the brass bushings. Show very little wear at all if any in one season of racing. Have run for two seasons without replacing them. So use it. Its just as good as any.
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